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The Fiftieth Anniversary of the Pill has inspired a lot of wingnuts to spill a lot of electrons bemoaning the fetal famine of the last half century. But it’s also — refreshingly — caused many of them to drop all pretense that the pro-life movement is concerned with anything other than slut-shaming. Today, it’s World Net Daily columnist Patrice Lewis, a teabaggery matron who lives on a farm in Real America (the title of her column) and likes to dig down deep into the fertile loam of her homestead for metaphors and rich clods of yeomany wisdom. Now just to set the record straight, I have nothing against the agrarian lifestyle — for most of our history it was the backbone of the American economy, and my own family were all farmers until I came along to spoil it — so if Ma Ingalls here wants to blame the birth control pill because her cow got itself knocked up, well then, who am I to tell her she’s flipped her bonnet? Still…

The following post contains graphic scenes of bovine lust. Parental discretion is advised.

Keep your pants on, America!

One of our cows was in heat and we didn’t want the bull to breed her because we didn’t want a calf born in the middle of winter. But bulls, as everyone knows, are notoriously single-minded when it comes to hormones.

In the end, the bull won and the cow got bred. This is animal nature, folks, and sometimes you can’t do anything to stop it.

But I like to think humans are above animals in that respect. Sure, we have hormones just like cattle. But unlike animals, humans have the ability to think and reason. This allows us to control our urges and do what is best for ourselves and for society

Unless you’re taking the birth control pill, which makes women rut like cattle.

Right now feminists are celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Pill, lauding its effects and congratulating society for allowing women to act like rutting cattle. See how far we’ve advanced in the past half-century?

So if you’re a woman and you enjoy sex, you will act like rutting cattle; but if you’re a woman who enjoys sex, and you’re on the Pill, then you will act like rutting cattle who are too selfish to have calves because they’re busy being bitches and breaking through the glass ceiling at the dairy.

Recently, a friend in Oregon was driving with her three homeschooled teenagers when they passed a billboard depicting a smiling, wholesome-looking young woman. “Take Care of Yourself!” announced the billboard (sponsored by – surprise – Planned Parenthood). “Free Birth Control!”

Outraged, my friend and her kids started bandying counter-slogans and came up with this: “Keep Your Pants On, America!” I think it’s brilliant.

Absolutely! But then, advertising men have known since the dawn of carnival barkers that nothing appeals to the consumer like a prim and purse-lipped disapproval of sex. On the other hand, it’s no “We keep you clean in Muscatine,” or “I Like Dick.”

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(via Franklin Avenue)

Just think of the implications if America kept its pants on. If women kept their bloomers buttoned. If men kept their wick zipped.

If men kept their stockings gartered. If women kept their bustles unrustled. If men kept their trousers hiked up with both a belt and suspenders. If women kept their corsets laced and men kept handlebars waxed and their dickys starched. (However, I find that zippered wicks conduct too much heat, so I prefer button-fly candles.)

But no, instead we got the Pill, lauded by feminists the world over for allowing us to rut like cattle.

So if you ever hear your neighbor mooing, you know she’s on the Pill. Or she’s Pasiphaë gettin’ busy with the Cretan bull.

“For the first time in human history,” says Letty Cottin Pogrebin, a founding editor of Ms. Magazine, “a woman could control her sexuality and determine her readiness for reproduction by swallowing a pill smaller than an aspirin. Critics warned that the Pill would spawn generations of loose, immoral women; what it spawned was generations of empowered women who are better equipped to make rational choices about their lives.”

Empowered, that’s it. Women acting like rutting cattle are empowered.

…with the Power of Cow!

Proponents of the Pill point out the ability for couples to plan their families rather than having more kids than they can support. While the Pill has undoubtedly been used for this, it’s pretty obvious the majority of women who take it aren’t planning families with their husbands. They’re single women enjoying the freedom to rut like cattle with no side effects.

Well, I wouldn’t say no side effects. I’ve known women who’ve gotten migraines from the Pill, or experienced weight gain. And of course, since pilled-up cowgirls always insist on rutting in an open pasture in order to keep it real, there’s also the danger of windburn, or bee stings, or worst of all, winding up in a series of blurry, telephoto paparazzo pix in the gossip segment on Modern Farmer.

And if there should be a “side effect,” then Planned “Parenthood” (what a laughable name) stands in the wings waiting to “liberate” them. Gosh, I feel empowered.

Look, I understand that in many cases abortion can be be a difficult choice, but if you bring the pregnancy to term and give birth to a Minotaur, your husband’s going to know you’ve been rutting.

Economic historian Claudia Goldin says, “The Pill was a great ‘enabler.’ With the Pill, large numbers of college women could embark on careers that involved long-term, up-front time commitments in education and training as physicians, lawyers, veterinarians, managers and academics, among others. The Pill fostered women’s careers by effectively lowering the costs of training.”

Well, for Pete’s sake, it’s the easiest thing in the world to obtain all the education and career advancements you want. You simply keep your pants on.

Although you might want to invest in a crotchless pantsuit.

But this isn’t good enough for “liberated” women. Somehow they’ve concluded that mindless rutting is empowering.

I think someone’s jealous of their cow.

No less a person than sex icon Raquel Welch,

What does that mean? Is she more of a person than most people? Says who? You ask me, she’s only half the person Chang and Eng were.

who was in a unique position during the ’60s and ’70s to see the true effects of the Pill’s benefits

She was one of the few fur bikini-wearing movie sex symbols who also moonlighted as a board certified gynecologist.

…admits its failures. She said a “significant and enduring” effect on women was the idea that they could have sex without any consequences – with the result that fewer today saw marriage as a “viable option.”

After all this time, I’m not really surprised by the number of wingnut women who believe that every sex act must have “consequences,” but I’m a little dismayed at how comfortable they seem sharing the same moral universe as the axe-wielding serial killer from a mid-80s slasher film.

She adds, “Seriously, folks, if an aging sex symbol like me starts waving the red flag of caution over how low moral standards have plummeted, you know it’s gotta be pretty bad.”

Your career? I wouldn’t worry; your revisionist history text seems to be making quite the splash with its target audience.

Feminists who applaud the Pill forget that multiple sexual partners and responsibility-free rutting causes mental, emotional and spiritual pain to women.

Crouching inside a wooden cow effigy — even a nice one made by Daedalus and upholstered in rich Corinthian leather — just so you can get nailed by an albino bull is bound to gnaw at a girl’s self-esteem. Or at least cause lower back pain.

We are no longer held up as something pure and beautiful through our maiden years. We lost our dignity and nobility. Courtship and vows went by the wayside. We’ve been reduced to the sum of our body parts, with our favors offered freely to uncommitted men for their use. Feeling empowered yet?

Once you’ve rutted, nobody’s going to want to fit you for a glass slipper, lock you in a tower, or put vegetables under your mattress. And you can just forget about French kissing an amphibian, or sharing costs by rooming with beasts or dwarves.

My friend who created the “Keep Your Pants On” slogan notes, “The business of promoting ‘safe sex’ to kids is clearly promoting kids having sex. This isn’t just moral decay, this is planned market development and sales. Start ‘em young, groom ‘em right, and you have a forever ready cash crop of 20-somethings who will keep forking over cash.” Hard to argue with that, since Planned “Parenthood” blatantly encourages teens to have sex, then offers “solutions” when girls become “victims” of unplanned pregnancies.

Except sex education and the Pill are designed to prevent pregnancies, so who’s making all this money off the hump-happy twentysomethings? Pfizer? Trojan? To whom are they forking over cash for the privilege of porking? Or are the rutting women modeling themselves on cow prostitutes, and charging the bulls for a roll in the hay?

I’ve seen the argument that sex is a natural part of human nature

Ha! As if!

…and to deny our urges is stupid and old-fashioned. “Why is sex made to be this big, sacred thing?” asks an Irish reader commenting on Welch’s article. “It’s completely natural, and if people want to sleep around that’s their business. Also, blaming the Pill is stupid. People had sex before contraception was invented, and what has it got to do with marriage anyway?”

Sure, go ahead and rut like an animal, sweetie. I hope it makes you feel empowered.

I’m a dazzling urbanite, so forgive my ignorance, but is “empowered” a rustic euphemism for “satisfied,” “spent,” or “less tense”?

Are feminists telling me they can’t control themselves?

I think they’re telling you they want to get laid this weekend, and are adult enough to do so without risking an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy.

That, like our cow in heat, they are mindlessly controlled by hormones? That they are incapable of keeping their pants on and therefore need artificial methods to allow them to advance their careers between sessions of mindless rutting? This is empowerment?

Actually Patrice, I think “this” is an unhealthy obsession with beastiality.

Maybe I’m missing something here, but I always thought humans were something special.

Really? I take it you’ve never read World Net Daily.

We have taken our large brains and created amazingly good and amazingly bad things. No other species on the planet is capable of impacting his world as much as humans.

Not that Patrice meant to accidentally endorse the theory of anthropogenic climate change. She just meant that we have been endowed with huge brains capable of creating planet-affecting pants.

To rise to such heights, we’ve learned to control our instincts by our logical behavior. If our instincts tell us to mate, our behavior guides the instinct into appropriate channels. Ergo, if you want to mate, then do so within a safe and appropriate context (marriage) which will maximize the benefits to offspring and society.

So in your farmhouse, sex is strictly procreational, never recreational? How’s your husband feel about that, Patrice? And why’s your sheep languidly smoking a cigarette?

Because of our cow’s ill-timed heat cycle, we will be giving her a shot of Lutalyse (an abortant) so she won’t have her calf in the middle of a bitterly cold north Idaho winter. Bingo, problem solved.

But is this really how you want to “solve” the problem of your teenage daughter’s ill-timed pregnancy? A quick trip to Planned Parenthood and bingo, an abortion? Have we really “advanced” this much?

It does seem primitive. In a truly advanced society, you’d be able to get an abortifacient delivered right to your home, like milk, or a strip-o-gram.

I suppose 50 years of the Pill has done some good. It’s shown us that returning to the roots of our morality isn’t such a bad thing. It’s demonstrated that sinking into the depths of hedonism doesn’t bring lifelong peace and joy.

C’mon, folks, don’t let a bunch of cows show us up. Keep your pants on, America.

Yeah, folks! Listen to the animal sex-watching cow-abortionist!

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Seems intentional decreasing your fertility is a human thing to do. A cow can’t go to the pharmacy, pick up some birth control pills, and remember to take them every day. A cow can’t use its hooves to put in a diaphragm. A cow wouldn’t even think of doing that! But yeah, keep saying that using birth control makes you a rutting cow, if that makes you feel better at night.

“Keep Your Pants On, America!” I think it’s brilliant.

Absolutely! … nothing appeals to the consumer like a prim and purse-lipped disapproval of sex. On the other hand, it’s no “We keep you clean in Muscatine,” or “I Like Dick.”

but comes close to “They Can’t Lick Our Dick”

Women acting like rutting cattle are empowered.

because they don’t want to have offspring in the Winter?

Is she really blaming the COW for the rutting bull’s behavior? And if she is such a savvy country-gal why the hell didn’t she separate the cow in heat from the bull. She is as stupid as Palin.

Just think of the implications if America kept its pants on. If women kept their bloomers buttoned. If men kept their wick zipped.

We’d have a ton of enraged, unsatisfied, overly sexually stimulated people to deal with?

Seriously, though; what is with this woman and “rutting cows”. I feel like she spends all of her time watching her cows and bulls mate, all the while muttering about them “rutting” while she gets NOTHING!

If you ask me? She’s a serial killer in the making…

If men kept their wick zipped.

I have “zipped my wick” more than once, & it is not something most of the wick-afflicted want to keep doing.

“[They] forget that multiple sexual partners and responsibility-free rutting causes mental, emotional and spiritual pain to women.”

Prove it with proper evidence that’s not be filtered through sex hating Christianity otherwise this is just the sex hating rantings of someone who’s obviously not doing it right.

I’m sympathetic to the lady’s concerns, but I’m not seeing a really strong argument that rutting is bad. It doesn’t seem to harm the cows.

“But is this really how you want to “solve” the problem of your teenage daughter’s ill-timed pregnancy? A quick trip to Planned Parenthood and bingo, an abortion? Have we really “advanced” this much?”

She’s right! If only there was some way to prevent teenage girls from getting pregnant in the first place. Perhaps some kind of pill. Get working on it Science!

It’s obvious this person has issues with sex that are deep-rooted. I’ll bet she’s never even touched herself without feeling enormous shame and guilt. I’d feel sorry for her if she wasn’t such an asshole.
But she is, so she deserves to be miserable.

Well…ignoring her fascination with bestiality and her fear of flying, I’d say the accidental insight that “this is planned market development and sales. Start ‘em young, groom ‘em right, and you have a forever ready cash crop of 20-somethings who will keep forking over cash” is the stopped clock being right twice a day.

Too bad she and her ilk can’t see that the corporate aristocracy are the villains in this show.

“Well, for Pete’s sake, it’s the easiest thing in the world to obtain all the education and career advancements you want. You simply keep your pants on.”

Yeah, just see how long that sexless marriage lasts.

Okay, again, since they never get it: unlettered appeals to “animal behavior” are definitely contraindicated if you’re trying to convince the world to keep its knees together. The whole of human sexuality screams promiscuity: the lack of estrus, permanently inflated breasts, large testicle/body weight ratio, our close kinship with the chimpanzee. (The other apes have harems, by the way, not lifelong committed monogamous heterosexual relationships.)

And, sorry, I missed the weekend discussion of Zombie Raquel Welch, because I was busy having sex (okay, so, ten minutes of sex, but it took 36 hours of pleading first), so may I just say, now, Raquel Welch was a sex symbol? In the era of Bardot, Deneuve, and Diana Rigg? Maybe to middle-aged drunks nostalgic for Jayne Mansfield. Raquel didn’t exude Sex; more like that plastic burning smell you get when you turn on an electric appliance for the first time.

There’s also the preoccupation wingnuts have with maintaining consequences for sex, no matter how awful those consequences could be-just so they can feel morally superior to someone. What really chafes their hinders is the possibility that-gasp!-their moral vanity might suffer a bruise from people “getting away with” doing something they don’t personally approve of. Even if it doesn’t hurt THEM.

After all this time, I’m not really surprised by the number of wingnut women who believe that every sex act must have “consequences,” but I’m a little dismayed at how comfortable they seem sharing the same moral universe as the axe-wielding serial killer from a mid-80s slasher film.

Marvelous. This nearly made me choke on my banana nut muffin.

Please forgive me, but do you think Ms. Lewis is stuck in a rut?

She’s stuck in the 50′s-the 1850′s.

Who cut her hair?

One “rut” would have gotten the point across, mam. That you said it eight times tells me more about you than I’m confortable knowing…

“Is she really blaming the COW for the rutting bull’s behavior? “
Maybe if she put pants on the bull?

“A quick trip to Planned Parenthood and bingo, an abortion?”
Everytime there’s an abortion an angel in heaven cries “bingo!”.

“Raquel Welch was a sex symbol? In the era of Bardot, Deneuve, and Diana Rigg? Maybe to middle-aged drunks nostalgic for Jayne Mansfield”
Guilty as charged. Mrs. Peel? Really? Even without a head Jayne was way hotter.

But unlike animals, humans have the ability to think and reason. This allows us to control our urges and do what is best for ourselves and for society

So fear (of getting pregnant) presents as “reason”?

Doesn’t she realize that The Pill has probably caused more pregnancies in her brood than it’s prevented, as her male family members have stopped fucking the cows in heat and started on actual womenfolk?

Outraged, my friend and her kids started bandying counter-slogans and came up with this: “Keep Your Pants On, America!” I think it’s brilliant.

Actually, so do I. It can also be used for outbreaks of propulsive diarrhea and any epidemics of mooning on college campuses.

Just think of the implications if America kept its pants on. If women kept their bloomers buttoned. If men kept their wick zipped.

Likely, we wouldn’t be reading this column. But I digress.

…with the Power of Cow!

I hate you, Scott.

They’re single women enjoying the freedom to rut like cattle with no side effects.

She makes this sound like a bad thing.

She said a “significant and enduring” effect on women was the idea that they could have sex without any consequences – with the result that fewer today saw marriage as a “viable option.”

Marriage is about sex? I got married to STOP having sex. It was my form of birth control.

Marriage is an unequal distribution of assets, is economically based and has less to do with “love” than these jackasses would admit even if you got them drunk. I will guarantee you that Patrice spent more time thinking about her future husband’s job prospects than the size of his dick.

If any.

We are no longer held up as something pure and beautiful through our maiden years.

Not true. It simply means those maiden years are a bit shorter than they were.

That, like our cow in heat, they are mindlessly controlled by hormones? That they are incapable of keeping their pants on and therefore need artificial methods to allow them to advance their careers between sessions of mindless rutting? This is empowerment?

Um. Yea, if you put it in terms of careerism. See, this way, sex for power stops being a roulette wheel and starts being two people communicating on an equal plane, since a woman now holds the trump card of “if you want kids, deal with me first.”

How hard is this to fathom?

Because of our cow’s ill-timed heat cycle, we will be giving her a shot of Lutalyse (an abortant) so she won’t have her calf in the middle of a bitterly cold north Idaho winter. Bingo, problem solved.

But her daughter wouldn’t have that option. Nice. She thinks more of her cow and calf than her own child.

And if she is such a savvy country-gal why the hell didn’t she separate the cow in heat from the bull.

I blame the patriarchy.

“Well, for Pete’s sake, it’s the easiest thing in the world to obtain all the education and career advancements you want. You simply keep your pants on.”

Look at how it worked for K-Lo! She gets Rich Lowry kicked to the curb and is running a failing right wing website that is constantly begging for funding ever since Richard Mellon Scaife’s divorce was announced and the wingnut welfare was cut off

I got the point, but I have a better idea: We should build a tall fence to keep fertile women and men separated!

This would be the Real Farmer Way®!

“Who cut her hair?”

Nobody. The bull chewed it off.

She looks an awful lot like Larry Johnson of PUMA fame…same Flowbie hairdo.

“[They] forget that multiple sexual partners and responsibility-free rutting causes mental, emotional and spiritual pain to women.”

Oh, I don’t know- Cows seem okay with it. Cats & Dogs, Birds & bees. Why should humans be different?

The whole of human sexuality screams promiscuity: the lack of estrus, permanently inflated breasts, large testicle/body weight ratio, our close kinship with the chimpanzee. (The other apes have harems, by the way, not lifelong committed monogamous heterosexual relationships.)

I tried this line on a woman once, it’s like Old Spice and Colt 45 combined.

But unlike animals, humans have the ability to think and reason.

This reminds me of Wanda and Otto’s argument:

Wanda: But you think you’re an intellectual, don’t you, ape?

Otto: [superior smile] Apes don’t read philosophy.

Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it! Let me correct you on a few things; Aristotle was not Belgian! The central message of Buddhism is not “Every man for himself!” And the London Underground is not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up.

Whenever I read about a conservative appealing to “reason”, I reach for my Enlightenment.

Mrs. Peel? Really? Even without a head Jayne was way hotter.

Dude, unless you really were middle-aged, we had very different childhoods, you and I.

And my point–or the one I was trying to make–was not that tastes don’t differ, but that Welch was about as “Sixties” as the girdle, the gin martini, and the flattop. Plastics, Ben.

And she had racial issues, to boot. At least Jim Brown thought so, since he’s alleged to have asked her on lunch break during filming of 100 Riflesif she wouldn’t mind passing the salt, since it wasn’t black.

“Dude, unless you really were middle-aged, we had very different childhoods, you and I.

Oh. I guess it does read that way. I meant I’m middle aged now but I’m still nostalgic for Jayne Mansfield, who I remember from then. And I remember that everyone was preoccupied with the purported size of Raquel’s IQ.
But still, Diana Rigg? I don’t see it. You might as well whack off to Mary Poppins.

“[They] forget that multiple sexual partners and responsibility-free rutting causes mental, emotional and spiritual pain to women.”

This one gets me, too, fluffypinkduck. We’re not even speaking the same language with these people. “Sex is bad,” they say. “Prove it,” we respond. “God says so.” “We don’t believe in your god who says that. So, again, prove it.” “We just did!”
And then the whole thing devolves into a yes/no argument because we won’t accept their premise and they won’t accept ours. For some reason, they’re not content with “Well, you’ll find out later.” The point to an argument from authority like that is that it really only becomes persuasive when the authority in question steps in and starts handing out the punishments. So, okay, if I find myself in hell after I die for having slept around, then that’s kind of my problem, isn’t it. In the meantime, your carping at me about it speaks to me of nothing so much as your fear that you’re not right, and when we die neither of us will be punished or rewarded and you will have missed the chance for some earthbound happiness.

Prove it with proper evidence that’s not be filtered through sex hating Christianity otherwise this is just the sex hating rantings of someone who’s obviously not doing it right.

And while we’re at it, prove that the consequences of the behavior you’d like to prohibit are worse than the consequences of the prohibition.

Some people like to eat Snickers bars. Some people eat too many, or nothing else, and develop health problems as a consequence. Some people are allergic to peanuts or other ingredients and may face a range of consequences from those. Some people can’t afford or can’t find Snickers bars, and miss out on something they might otherwise enjoy. Some realize they just don’t like them.

None of those are sufficient reasons to prohibit people from eating them. The existence of people making poor choices and suffering for it does not outweigh people who either make better choices or through sheer luck don’t suffer for their poor choices. So it is with sex.

But, they say “There are consequences to sex, so you shouldn’t.” And we say, what are they? Well, you could get pregnant, or get a disease, or end up feeling bad. “Contraception,” we reply. “Abortion. Adoption. Disease prevention, like condoms and vaccinations for HPV, and talking to your partner about risks. Feeling bad? Learn from it and make better choices next time. Talk to your friends. Decide if you really *should* feel bad about what happened. Talk to your partner before and after. Get to know people, and decide what risks you’re willing to take emotionally for what benefits.

There are people I’ve had sex with that I’ve regretted. There are instances of sex that I’ve regretted for other reasons. They are not more numerous or more significant than the occasions I’ve had good sexual experiences, so they weren’t a good enough reason to abandon the whole thing.

Emotionally normal people can have a bad, even traumatic or catastrophic, day and not decide that there should therefore be no more days for them. Why should sex be any different?

Too often they come back to: So you’re saying you can’t control yourself, that’s so sad. And I always wonder, Well, what’s your reason for *needing* us to control ourselves about entirely consensual sex? To hare into another metaphor, I’m promising I can avoid drinking myself to death, or getting into a drunken fight, or driving drunk, or in some other way losing all control, and you’re saying I still shouldn’t drink except for champagne at my wedding? Why? No, really. Why? And what business is it of yours anyway?

Because it causes mental, emotional and spiritual pain to women like Patty when somebody who is not HER is happy.

As Mencken said,

“Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time.”

This one also fits:

“For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of the-not-worth-knowing.”

All this talk about sex makes me want to have sex.

Damn, I’m with Doghouse. What I remember about Welch was that she was the first animated mannequin I saw in my life. She never seems to have stopped having plastic surgery (I remember boob job rumors when my age was in the single digits), even now that she’s become grotesque. From firsthand accounts of people who attended her while she was in hospital, I gathered she’s a nasty piece of work as well.

I’ll take my Foster Grants with blacked-out lenses.

talking to your partner about risks. Feeling bad? Learn from it and make better choices next time. Talk to your friends. Decide if you really *should* feel bad about what happened. Talk to your partner before and after. Get to know people, and decide what risks you’re willing to take emotionally for what benefits.

This exactly. Unfortunately, the debate is so polarized that a nuanced analysis and set of recommendations like this is hardly ever seen among the screams of “keep your pants zipped!” and “sex is so great all the time no matter what and jokes about men fucking livestock because their uptight right-wing wives won’t fuck them are soooooo funny!”

That polarization is why I so often find myself confused in these debates, because I think the mindless sex-without-strings cheerleading promoted in the mainstream is unsatisfying for a significant chunk of the population — but I also think legislating and moralizing about sexual behavior is not helpful or productive. And in the meantime, any discussion of women’s ability to have sexual autonomy WITHOUT wreaking havoc with our body chemistry is pretty much off the table.

I think what needs to be said is she’s OK with most if not all of the consequences of sex being visited on the woman. It’s fine for a man to “play the field” without fear of anything but the occasional disease, as long as the women get their just desserts. Pathetic.

If I might weigh in on Raquel: being gay, I suppose I’m not really qualified to determine her sexiness, but I’m not completely blind, so I’ll give it a shot. She’s not particularly ugly, and I did enjoy her guest spot on “The Muppet Show”, but that’s probably because Muppets always ease the pain. Her best screen performance-in terms of ACTING-was in “Kansas City Bomber”, which came out way back in 1972. Nothing before it, or since then, suggested she had much going on there. It wouldn’t have been so bad if she had a definable screen personality to make up for her deficianies as an actor-heck, even Mamie Van Doren had that. (And Diana Rigg had it by the truckload.)But she didn’t even try to be likable onscreen, and if rumours are true, didn’t try too hard offscreen either. Allegedly she got along with Rex Reed on the set of “Myra Breckinridge”, but he’s kind of an asshole too, so who cares?
I’m a little surprised to learn she had issues with people of colour, since she had to change her name to hide her Latina roots-you’d think she’d be a little more empathetic.
There’s something kind of sad about her newly-acquired position as a spokesmodel for wingnut purity. It’s kind of like Stephen Baldwin’s transformation into a batshit-insane Jesus freak.

Raquel Welch’s line of wigs is awesome. I would like a gift certificate, please, for one in either Glazed Mocha (Raquel says it’s “Two dark browns with funky Nordic butterscotch blond in the front only”) or Strawberry Blend (“Auburn roots. Rusty body. Butterscotch blond spotlight! Wow!”), except that it would be more charitable and kindly of me to offer the gift certificate to Patrice Lewis. I hate being the nice one.

Also? I have read that close to 75% of cow inseminations are done artificially these days, for purposes of bloodlines, breed management, and avoidance of injury, especially to the inseminee. So a big Rutting Fail to Ms. Lewis for putting her livestock at risk.

I’m just going to say this, as a typical straight male:

Diana Rigg? Jayne Mansfield? Raquel Welch?

Dude, I wouldn’t kick any of them out of bed for eating crackers. Hello? MALE here????

Oh, and scripto?

Diana Rigg. Perhaps you’ve never *really* seen her before.

I’m kind of charmed by the debate about the relative merits of Jayne, Diana, Raquel etc. Girls talk like this, too, y’know…

Because there’s no accounting for de gustibus, is what it comes down to. Raquel may have had that sprayed-together look, but she obviously hit a nerve or 2 for a lot of guys. When fangirls go gaga about a chipmunk-cheeked person like Bradd Pitt, it baffles me on a purely esthetic level. Don’t they want bone structure?? But apparently they just don’t care.

I found Patrice’s endlessly repeated rutting-like-cattle strange, too. Maybe she was going for rhetorical effect, but it came off creepy. On consideration, I think she was semi-consciously coming back to a big core issue: the unconquerable power of instinct.

She presents keeping your pants on as a simple, reasonable decision – no problem for a good, rational person. But I think she really knows, somewhere in that same gut that once thrilled to her equivalent of Brad Pitt or Rob Pattinson (the latter a teen-scream I can understand, btw), that it’s not simple, and it’s not no problem. If she were the non-sexual type, she wouldn’t have gone on about rutting again, and again, and again.

I once saw a young bull in his paddock, on a beautiful May afternoon, at the agricultural campus near my college dorm. He was the “thesis” of a nice Ag student who chatted with me and another girl. The paddock was next to a large barn, and the bull was repeatedly trying to force up the gate that closed him in by wedging his horns under the bottom bar. The Aggie explained that the barn housed several cows, and added that bulls can tell if a woman is menstruating, which drives them nuts.

I bet Patrice knows this too. She’s using a lot of mental/emotional/political energy trying to keep the gate between Base Animal and Superior Human shut. She also subscribes to the old saw that it’s Woman’s responsibility to keep the padlock on.

Patrice saw a bull rutting and got all hot & bothered.

L’il,

There’s an old saying: “Grandma would put out if you took her to the right drive-in movie.”

Horny teens are horny teens. They are going to fuck whether you give them the pill, a condom or nothing. There was a time when it was harder for them to find the privacy (the “drive-in”), so that mitigated their sex drives, but they still found ways.

Horny adults don’t have the constraints of needing privacy. Apartments, hotels, hell, a good and dark bar will suffice.

Elsie claims on her website that she moved to the country in 1992, married already. It seems unlikely that a woman her age would never have encountered pre-marital sex in a city (she claims it was an urban environment, but…) but if she lived a cloistered enough life, who knows?

actor, if I WAS straight, I’d go for Diana Rigg simply because she seems brainier than the others.
and L’il, I happened to have “Ellen” on in the background as I’m writing this, and Rob Pattison’s her guest. He seems like a charming enough guy, but as fictional vampires go, Ian Somerhalder on “The Vampire Diaries” is WAY hotter.

Yeah, whatever, I’m old school and kind of insane, and basically Spike-oriented. Or Spike and Angel, together. With me. Shut up. Also Fred.

Bill S., I’m not into the Vampire saga at all – but the kid does have bone structure. That gets him over the first hurdle in my system. I always went for the Byronic type, a weakness that didn’t actually work out too well RL-wise.

Pettinson was Cedric Diggory in Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire, the only time I’ve ever seen him. He was believable playing a decent boy who isn’t into himself enough to quite get why the girls ogle him.

Actor, you’re describing many of my memories. Ou sont les drive-ins d’antan, is what I’d like to know. As for Patrice’s youth, she doesn’t sound like the sort of person who was abnormally cloistered. Her authorial tone is pretty sophisticated. I think she made some kind of decision early on. I had a hi-school GF who did a similar thing at about age 19, largely I think as a reaction against her European parents’ stressful, complex, secular Jewish-intellectual background. She met a WASP boy whose clean-cut qualities I personally found a little alarming, and they pledged chastity to each other until marriage. She was a normally horny kid – we used to call our respective virginities our “albatrosses” – but other issues overrode that. Her choice.

Problem with Patrice is, she thinks her decision is the only proper one for everybody else.

actor

re: Rigg – OK, I guess. But she doesn’t look real healthy to me.

I was in love with Julie Newmar. Especially the Robot Julie. There, I said it. I’m tired of living a lie.

Oh, and scripto?

Diana Rigg. Perhaps you’ve never *really* seen her before.

All I can say to this is: “Yowsah!!!”

I’m with you, scripto. My Living Doll was must-see TV.

Well, it’s all a matter of degrees; aborting a human fetus is a sin because God’s creations should be cherished. Aborting a cow fetus, another one of God’s creations, so you don’t have to go to the extra expense of feeding the little fella in the winter is OK. I wonder how the cow felt about that. And what did they do with the cow fetus? Fertilizer?

Late to the party I see; hey, I was on travel.

Anyway, I like the irony that this broad probably likes fences in a big way, but does she ever think to use them for animals?

Something to say?