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(A cordial welcome to all the folks arriving via stumbleupon and pewsitter.com. Update below.)

On May 9, 1960, the FDA approved Enovid, the first oral contraceptive, which means that yesterday The Pill turned 50. Now ordinarily we don’t do birthday posts for pharmaceuticals, but there are a couple good reasons for making an exception in this case. First, half a century is a major milestone, and means The Pill will now have to get regular prostate exams, which is unfair or ironic, I’m not sure which. Second, it’s driving all the Papist Anti-Pillers into a frenzy of frustrated fertility.
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Matt C. Abbott is “a Catholic columnist,” who writes in the tradition of Desiderius Erasmus and Henry of Ghent, bringing a scholarly and classical perspective to complex theological issues by drawing upon his “Bachelor of Arts degree in Communication, Media and Theatre from Northeastern Illinois University.” But while Brother Abbott is firmly grounded in the Humanities, he also brings a rigorous epistemological approach to ontology, in the manner of William of Ockham, by virtue of an “Associate in Applied Science degree in Business Management from Triton College in River Grove, Ill.” which means that he took a junior college night course and totally knows how to work a cash register and one of those laser things that scans bar codes.

I’ve never bothered with Matt in the past because his writing usually consist of long excerpts of someone else’s writing — emails from cranky retired priests that are too long to print in the South Bend Tribune letters to the editor column, for instance — so he’s kind of hard to mock. But this week, perhaps inspired by the Golden Jubilee of the Zygote Holocaust, he offered up a title I just had to share with you:

Has ‘the pill’ caused drive-by shootings?

Judging by the laudatory articles on the birth control pill popping up all over the Web in recent days, one might conclude that the pill was in fact the greatest invention since sliced multigrain bread.

Why did Matt feel the need to update the classic cliché, “the greatest invention since sliced bread?” Because The Pill is taken by Feminists, who are into that crunchy, Birkenstocky granola stuff, and by adding the word “multigrain,” he signals that he is playing a deep and subtle game here. However, he sort of peaks in the first paragraph, since the rest of the column is, as usual, just stuff he lifted from other people, including a prominent contributor to neo-nazi periodicals (Matt, to his credit, admits the guy is “controversial”).

This week Brother Abbott starts off with a snippet from a Washington Post piece by feminist historian Elaine Tyler May, who wrote, unsurprisingly, about the history of The Pill and how it remade motherhood for the better, then he segues into a bit of guilt by association (“May’s fondness for the pill — actually, she seems fonder of the morally bankrupt Margaret Sanger than of the pill itself”) before bringing in someone else to refute her. In this case, it’s “Chicagoan Eleanore Veronika Strong,” who doesn’t appear to be a historian, or to have done much to impress Google, but we’re six paragraphs in and Matt really needed someone to spell him at the keyboard:

“It always strikes me as ironic when self-proclaimed feminists like Elaine Tyler May…”

A lady always waits for a gentleman to open a door, pull out her chair, call her for a date, or proclaim her a feminist. Remember girls, if you’re a serious advocate for sexual equality, you’ll play by The Rules.

“Moreover, why would she further enable such a man’s behavior by ingesting hormones to suppress her body’s natural functioning so that she can be sexually available to him with no investment or responsibility required on his part?”

Strong says that “women are most liberated when they set boundaries that encourage men to accept and respect them exactly as they are.”

The Equal Rights Amendment would have passed back in the 70s and women would have spent the last few decades enjoying equal pay and opportunities for professional advancement if they’d just insisted on risking pregnancy every time they had sex. If you ain’t fertile, you aren’t liberated.

She also advocates the use of natural family planning for married couples, which the Church approves.

Along with exorcism.

“If a couple has discerned that they have a serious reason to avoid conception, periodic abstinence during the woman’s fertile periods is a beautiful way for a man to demonstrate restraint, maturity, and ultimately love for his partner.”

Stock up on plenty of porn and Kleenex to increase the beauty.

Wow, Matt wrote a whole sentence of that last paragraph, he must be exhausted. Who can he quote next? Ah, it’s Dawn Eden, authoress of The Thrill of the Chaste: Finding Fulfillment While Keeping Your Clothes On. From Publishers Weekly:

Eden herself is a convert to both Christianity and chastity, and now an unmarried 30-something, she’s persuaded that chastity is more “hope-filled” and “vibrant” than sex outside of marriage. She draws on John Paul II’s theology of the body to explain why Christians should reserve sex for marriage; “our bodies are living metaphors of God’s loving nature,” she argues, and to have sex casually is to make a false promise of total commitment. Eden doesn’t just theologize—she gives practical advice about…masturbation (avoid it—you’ll just feel lonely afterward).

When you’re telling women not to masturbate, should you really use the word “vibrant?” Seems like you’re kind of undermining your own presentation. (As we’ve mentioned here before, Dawn is working on a follow-up book for gals who want to use their new found virginity as a selling point in landing Mr. Right, entitled Hi Men! I’ve Got a Hymen!) Anyway, Dawn steps onto the rubber and pitches a quick couple of relief paragraphs:

If the pill made motherhood ‘better,’ then one would expect that mothers would be happier now than they were in 1972, before the birth rate fell dramatically as contraception use expanded. Instead, as a recent report by researchers at the Wharton School of Business shows, between 1972 and 2006, the happiness of U.S. mothers fell just as dramatically.

Speaking from my own experience, I have to to admit that Dawn makes a good point. My mother was definitely much happier in 1972, in large part because she was stoned on Valium. But 1972 is an interesting date to pick, since that’s the year Eisenstadt v. Baird was decided by the United States Supreme Court, giving single women the same access to The Pill that married women had enjoyed since Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965. That might explain the increase in contraception use. In any case, while measuring the happiness of mothers, we should probably factor in the happiness of women who were now no longer forced to become mothers (along with middle class wage stagnation, the decline of American manufacturing, the rise in divorce rates and a bunch of other social issues that weren’t caused by oral contraception, but still might affect maternal happiness.)

“Clearly, from the point of view of general trends, the pill’s enabling women to have fewer children does not make for ‘better’ motherhood, if ‘better’ means happier. Nor can it be said to make for better mothers from the child’s point of view, since using contraception makes it easier for women to commit adultery.

And unregulated fertility makes it easier for women to die from complications of childbirth. So what’s it gonna be, kid? Your mom can be Madame Bovary, or a corpse. Take your pick…

In fact, [May] shows no visible concern for children’s well-being at all — which isn’t surprising, given what she’s pushing. By encouraging a culture of radical individualism that treats children as accessories, the pill has created a generation of ‘wire monkey’ mothers.”

Some kids prefer that:

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But enough of these women and their opinions. What do neo-nazi men think about The Pill? Matt?

Finally, author E. Michael Jones (yes, I know he has some controversial writings on other subjects) has an interesting take on contraception and its effects on American society:

Interesting is scarcely the word. Personally, I think Dr.. Jones is by far the most quotable of the day laborers Matt hires out of the Home Depot parking lot to mow, mulch, and fertilize his column. But first, let’s do a cursory bit of due diligence on those “controversial writings” — fortunately, Dr. Jones is much more popular with Google than Mrs. Strong.

The Southern Poverty Law Center reports that he “founded Fidelity magazine after being fired as a professor at South Bend’s Catholic women’s college, St. Mary’s” in 1981.

In 1996, Jones changed the name of his magazine to Culture Wars, and he has increasingly focused on the alleged evils of the Jews…that “Jewish media elites” run the country, that Jews are “major players” in pornography, and that Jews are behind Masonry and the French Revolution…He also accuses Jews of poisoning society with thinkers such as Karl Marx (a devotee of Satan, says Jones) and Sigmund Freud (who set off an epidemic of sexual sin, he says). And he describes the World War II Nazi genocide of the Jews as “a reaction to Jewish Messianism (in the form of Bolshevism).” Last April…Jones charged that anyone who went to a mainstream university would emerge “with a Jewish world view … and maybe a Jewish spouse.” Jones, who has written nine books and hundreds of articles, regularly cites extremist sources, especially the American Free Press run by veteran anti-Semite Willis Carto.

Dr. Jones has also contributed to The Barnes Review, which is published by the aforementioned Holocaust denier, Willis Carto. But these writings were all on “other subjects.” I’m sure he has something completely sensible to say about oral contraception.

The last time I spoke here, I talked about how contraceptives caused drive-by shootings

You know how sometimes you’ll be walking through a restaurant, or a store, and you’ll catch a fragment of conversation (“…But she wouldn’t wear the sponges, and I told her, monkeys are wrinkled!”) that’s so perfectly incoherent you hope you never learn the context? I almost don’t want to read on and spoil it.

…how over the summer of 1965, the regime decided that the contraceptive, not providing jobs for black fathers, was to be the solution to this country’s welfare problem and how as a result of this sort of ideological gasoline poured on a social fire, black illegitimacy soared from 20 to over 70 percent.

The one disadvantage to the widepread use of the birth control pill is how it increases the birth rate. Other than that, it’s great.

The demographic surge among Catholics that would come to be known as the baby boom was causing people with an eye for demographics, like the Rockefellers, much concern. In fact, the demographic handwriting was on the wall; the United States was on its way to becoming a Catholic country. But the Enlightenment counterattack was waiting in the wings. Ethnic cleansing can eliminate the political power of people in a particular place by moving them some place else, but it will not provide a long term solution to demographic increase, because as the oppressed group increases, it will also take over the areas it moves into. The long-term solution to the ‘Catholic problem’ had to blunt their demographic power. The long-term solution to the ‘Catholic problem’ was the contraceptive.

And that’s why the Church won’t let you use a rubber. The Rockefellers have been locked in a secret shooting war with the Vatican ever since 1925, when Cardinal de Sangre, the right hand to Pope Pius XI, and the man many expected to become the next Pope, was exposed as Margaret Sanger in drag. She had spent five years in the papal halls, spying and passing on the results of the Church Fathers’ experiments with the Rhythm Method. Outraged, by this betrayal, Pius turned the cold war hot with a sneak attack on Radio City, and the Rockefellers responded the only way they knew how — by trying to kill his cannon fodder with contraceptives.

“How many divisions does the Pope have,” Stalin once memorably inquired, and the answer nowadays, of course, is:

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“None! Thanks to The Pill! Gah…! Oh, and you can’t have condoms either, because the Brits call them bishops, and that makes me self-conscious about my hat.”

UPDATE:

I just noticed that this is not Dr. Jones’ first appearance at WO’C. In a 2003 piece about the Christian Broadcasting Network’s annual Halloween panic attacks, s.z. wrote:

In Avenging Monsters: The Origins of Horror Fiction, Charles Colson reports on a book by one E. Michael Jones, who says that horror movies reflect sexual decadence, and so presumably you shouldn’t let your children watch “Casper the Friendly Ghost.”

Per Jones, Percy Shelley was a libertine who made his second wife Mary sleep with his friends. She got tired of it, but she couldn’t relieve her conscience “because she didn’t understand repentance.” So, she wrote Frankenstein. Dr. Frankenstein represents Percy, who wanted to create an “enlightenment sexual ethic,” but his creation turns out to be a monster that hangs out with the wolfman and terrorizes Abbott and Costello, thus showing that violating traditional sexual mores causes angry, torch-carrying villagers to burn down your castle. And thus was the horror film born, a hundred years later.

And Dracula is really the story of syphilis — which, as we all know, renders those who suffer from it unable to cast a reflection in a mirror, but which can be prevented by wearing a crucifix.

But even more horrifying:

A century later, another vengeful monster emerged in the wake of the modern sexual revolution: that is, the creature in the 1979 film Alien. The man chosen to create the monster, H. R. Giger, claims he never procured an abortion for his mistress. And yet, Jones notes, “his art is full of images of abortion and dead babies.” In any event, Jones writes, Giger’s thwarting of child-bearing, through either contraception or abortion, “is so morally significant that it embeds itself onto his consciousness.”

And Giger’s conscience sought relief by creating a fetus-monster for Alien. At the film’s end, a female astronaut kills the monster in a manner that strikingly resembles a suction abortion.

The warning of these films is that “sex disconnected from the moral order is horrifying,” Jones writes.

This Halloween, when your kids want to rent a horror film, don’t let them. Instead, sit down with them—and with the neighbor’s kids, as well—and explain where horror films really come from and why they are perverse. It’s a great way to expose the cultural lies that are at the root of our society’s celebration of horror.

Yeah, tell them all about wife swapping, syphilis, and suction abortions — that will tramautize them WAY more than even Texas Chain Saw Massacres would. Your neighbors will thank you for enlightening their children this way.

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Okay, I understand they’ve got a lot of nice artwork an’ stuff, but for the life of me I can’t understand the appeal of a religion which makes grown people fly off the handle about masturbation.

The other thing I get no end of amusement from is the whole The Pill Caused the Sixties routine. And thanks for bringing up Eisnestadt; I remember what a big deal it was when women of my acquaintance could go to the college health center and get contraceptives. It’s curious that we still found reasons to engage in non-procreative sex before that.

If masturbation makes you feel bad afterward, you’re probably doing it wrong. Try abstaining from a kink at a time till you find your comfort level. You could, say, leave out the wetsuit this time, and if you still feel bad after try it without the wire monkey mother next time. Happy to help, Dawn.

Scott, could you warn us when you get into Proust mode, please?

Has ‘the pill’ caused drive-by shootings?

I can see it now…gangs of Ortho-Novums roaming the streets in low-riders, looking for Harley riding YAZ’ to shoot.

“Moreover, why would she further enable such a man’s behavior by ingesting hormones to suppress her body’s natural functioning so that she can be sexually available to him with no investment or responsibility required on his part?”

Um, cuz, you know, sex is sex, and most men couldn’t give a crap if the chicking they’re balling is packing or not, so to speak, so SOMEone has to protect the woman’s body.

Along with exorcism.

Yes, the Church has no problem with ripping a fully-formed demon from a human body, but a pre-born one?

Eden herself is a convert to both Christianity and chastity, and now an unmarried 30-something, she’s persuaded that chastity is more “hope-filled” and “vibrant” than sex outside of marriage.

Um, I’m betting “hope-filled” is more descriptive of her dating technique. And vibrant? Well, you figure that one out.

I can’t understand the appeal of a religion which makes grown people fly off the handle about masturbation.

Not too veiled penis reference there, Dog.

I’m not going to get pregnant to teach men a lesson about responsibility.

“Moreover, why would she further enable such a man’s behavior by ingesting hormones to suppress her body’s natural functioning so that she can be sexually available to him with no investment or responsibility required on his part?”

Because of course the only reason a woman takes the pill is to enable men to fuck and run. Not because she actually might want to enjoy sex without getting pregnant.

Hysterical Woman: Agreed. How about some sort of compromise where we teach them responsibility by refusing to do their laundry so they end up having to go to work in that horrible yellow Hawaiian shirt? Because, frankly, the odds that any particular irresponsible adult is going to learn responsibility as a result of a single action another adult does are so slim that it’s not worth risking much for.

“She also advocates the use of natural family planning for married couples, which the Church approves.” Along with exorcism – but blowing boys is bad if you get caught !

“She had spent five years in the papal halls, spying and passing on the results of the Church Fathers’ experiments with the Rhythm Method. ” Issuing the Papal Bull, so to speak !

Someone should tell Abbott and Jones that the largest growing segment in our country today is overwhelmingly Catholic and has strong “family values”.

Why do I get the feeling they aren’t talking about their hermanos y hermanas?

Obviously, lampooning is easier than actually thinking of an intelligent response, is that why this blog is called World O Crap? I’m guessing that’s a good fit, because what you all wrote here is crap. Even more obvious, from what I read here, you people think no adult human being can control themselves (sexually or otherwise) and should not be responsible for their own actions. Wow, that’s f’d up…

Even more obvious, from what I read here, you people think no adult human being can control themselves (sexually or otherwise) and should not be responsible for their own actions.

It’s more empirically realistic than your evident belief that shame, guilt and moon cycles will prevent people from having sex.

And, you forgot “aptly named World O’ Crap”. It’s a chestnut.

If the pill made motherhood ‘better,’ then one would expect that mothers would be happier now than they were in 1972, before the birth rate fell dramatically as contraception use expanded. Instead, as a recent report by researchers at the Wharton School of Business shows, between 1972 and 2006, the happiness of U.S. mothers fell just as dramatically.

Well, I assume that Eden is talking about this study here:

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1753

which has a couple of problems:

First, it shows the same drop among women who aren’t mothers.

Second, everything else you can read at that Languagelog post, including the fact that slightly more women then men are reporting themselves to be “very happy”.

It’s apparently a valid, well-supported study, but almost everybody in the media has misinterpreted it, because making a point about feminism is more important then actually looking at the data.

Dawn steps onto the rubber and pitches a quick couple of relief paragraphs:

**Golf clap** Well done, sir!

The last time I spoke here, I talked about how contraceptives caused drive-by shootings…

Yeah, but they’re shooting blanks, so who cares?

Well, I am a living testament to how well the “Rhythm Method” works. So, there you go.

Ooh, a troll! (oops. sorry. an “ogre”) Wow. Funny. Never heard the old “your blog is called World O Crap because it is crap! HAR HAR HAR” joke before.

Here’s the thing. Like abstinence, condoms, IUDs, and the pill are all ways of people taking responsibility for their actions. Just because you and/or your religion think those things are wrong or immoral doesn’t make it wrong for the rest of us.

Now run along and hope and pray that the life you chose will give you

Dang, you should have put “I know the SPLC is a questionable source” after you cited them. That might have made this article slightly more bearable than having my leg sawed off with a sledge hammer without the benefit of Yukon Jack even.

SPLC is only a “questionable source” if you’re a deranged bigot. So…huh. I forgot what point I was trying to make.

I appreciate Matt Abbott’s blog, and he’s straight on about the ill effects of the birth control pill.

Number One: it gives men a reason to have unlimited sex from a woman. No baby- no problem.

The pill has been great for men!

It has also destroyed marriages, contributed to the greater number of STD’s, and left a great number of women with little or no sex drive.

No thanks-

There’s nothing better than a natural hormonal cycle and a man that loves you!

Boy, the crazies are out in force, aren’t they?

Mary Ann: “It has also destroyed marriages, contributed to the greater number of STD’s, and left a great number of women with little or no sex drive.”

I’d like to see a source or two for that beyond “my wild conjecture”.

There’s nothing better than a natural hormonal cycle and a man that loves you!

…and wants you to be pregnant every year for the rest of your long and happy lives together!

If your man really loves you, he’ll get his tubes tied.

Obviously, lampooning is easier better than actually thinking of an intelligent response to a claim which does not deserve one

Fixxorated, for improved reality.

“How many divisions does the Pope have?” “None” you say… think again. Stalin is gone along with the CCCP and all serious forms of Stalinism… And yet we still have a Pope. And with Catholics making up 17% of the world’s population and growing, I think you can count on there being a Pope, still teaching that all forms of artificial contraception are immoral, a thousand years after your World-O-Crap is nothing more than a full stop to a paragraph on the stupidity of bloggers at the beginning of the 21st century.

‘SPLC is only a “questionable source” if you’re a deranged bigot. So…huh. I forgot what point I was trying to make.’

Well, the only person who’s a bigger phony and huckster than Morris Dees is Simon Wiesenthal.

But the SPLC plays well to brain-dead leftist bloggers whose critical thinking skills are so deranged by their ideology that they’re actually nothing more than automatons gorged on spite and contempt for their fellow man.

Look up what WHO has to say about artificial estrogens (i.e., the Pill). They are carcinogenic. Look at the Harvard-run Women’s Health Initiative. They are associated with higher rates of the following:
- breast cancer
- heart disease
- stroke
-dementia
But, hey, what do the scientists know? Oops, I forgot, they’re only testing HRT. Same chemical, but it’s different when young women use it … NOT.

Stop the lefty hate.

The Pill is only a part of the strategy of ethnic cleansing of Catholics, instituted by the Protestant elite. The other is manipulation of racial strife through demographic manipulation and “urban renewal”. Now Catholic women have more abortions and divorces proportionally than do Protestant women. Catholic services have incorporated Protestant rituals and prayers. Catholics have left the Church in massive numbers. Homosexuals have entered the priesthood and molested children. If it were not for the immigration of Hispanics, the US would not have a positive population grown but whould be like Europe which is in catastrophic decline, destined to be replaced by Mulims, who do not care about the Pill, abortion and have an average of 8 kids per family. The the women will not get breast cancer at the same rate because they would not be taking the Pill, which is composed of powerful steroids, estrogen and progeterone, the same hormones implicated in causing cancer from hormone replacement therapy for menopausal symptoms. The Pill is the gift that keeps on giving.

This? This is just lefty mockery. You want to see lefty hate, give the Vox Day thread a couple days.

Interesting….when did the US birth rate go down?

Cuz from what I’m seeing, it’s still about the same level it was 50 years ago.

I think you can count on there being a Pope, still teaching that all forms of artificial contraception are immoral, a thousand years after your World-O-Crap is nothing more than a full stop to a paragraph on the stupidity of bloggers at the beginning of the 21st century.

And he’ll still be protecting child molesters, kings and nobles.

Actually, and of course you know this, being a tongue-bath Papist (note: I was baptised, confirmed and communed in the Mother Church, so spare me the liturgy, you fraud) the whole “anti-contraception” thing is goes all the way back to the ancient times of the 1930s when Rome started “outlawing” condoms and diaphragms. Augustine was long on the record being against birth control and certainly, the church was against it too (for a variety of reasons), but it wasn’t until Modern Times when they began the stupid emphasis on it that the world enjoys today. Moreover, as late as 1966, the priests on the Catholic Commission on Birth Control voted overwhelmingly to support it for married couples. A small minority dissented, saying it would harm the Church to admit their centuries-long mistake.

Nice racket.

The Church, in all its eternal glory, will be around plaguing us for centuries, I agree. And they’ll continue to be tone-deaf stewards of poverty, superstition and ignorance.

So we have that to look forward to.

As E. Michael Jones as so deftly put it, sexual liberation means political control. Sexual liberation affected the black community much earlier than it did the Catholic and Protestant Europeans. Sexual liberation in the black community brought female headed households (subsidized by the Democrat government), absent and negligent fathers, teen-aged boys out of control, homosexuality, AID’s, crime and drive-by shootings. In the 60′s, the black community produced around 30% of the children born out of wedlock. Today, it is 70% and the Americans of European stock are at 30%, with the same expected outcome in terms of crime. The Dem party, the party of sexual liberation, has so much of which to be proud.

I think the name of this blog could be shortend from ‘World of Crap’ to just ‘Crap’. What a waste of my time to read this tripe.

In the 60’s, the black community produced around 30% of the children born out of wedlock. Today, it is 70% and the Americans of European stock are at 30%, with the same expected outcome in terms of crime.

You do realize that the crime rate has plummeted over the past 20 years, right? I mean, it’s not even close. Even now, in the middle of a severe economic downturn, most cities have near-historic low rates.

But please, Mr. Crackpot Racist Catholic, keep talking. Things were better back when, I’m sure.

“The Dem party, the party of sexual liberation, has so much of which to be proud.”

I know. Denver – 2008 – everybody got naked. And when I call out Democrat at the poll – automatic blow job from a poll worker. I’m telling you man, you should seriously consider switching parties.

” I think you can count on there being a Pope, still teaching that all forms of artificial contraception are immoral.”

That’s why we have altar boys, silly.

“There’s nothing better than a natural hormonal cycle and a man that loves you!”

Yep. I know my wife loves her monthly bleed. And it’s not a “cycle” by the way, it’s god flushing one that didn’t take.

As E. Michael Jones as so deftly put it, sexual liberation means political control.

yea, but he also said arbeit macht frei work will free you, so what the fuck does he know, you ignorant asshole?

What a waste of my time to read this tripe.

And yet you spent five more minutes hunting and pecking out your gloriously original post!

Thanks for visiting, and tell your friends!

” I think you can count on there being a Pope, still teaching that all forms of artificial contraception are immoral.”

Pope Benedict the Last, circa 3010: “No! Really! Contraception is bad! I mean it, Medammit! Stop it! Stop it THIS INSTANT! I’m warning you!”

The Pill is only a part of the strategy of ethnic cleansing of Catholics, instituted by the Protestant elite.

Which is why Catholics are the fastest growing religious group by birth in the country.

Thanks for playing!

The man chosen to create the monster, H. R. Giger, claims he never procured an abortion for his mistress. And yet, Jones notes, “his art is full of images of abortion and dead babies.”

So the man says he never procured an abortion, but then Jones concludes he’s lying simply based on his art?

So then Catholicism MUST be totally gay, since, you know, Jesus, twelve male disciples and a fag hag…

At the film’s end, a female astronaut kills the monster in a manner that strikingly resembles a suction abortion.

The warning of these films is that “sex disconnected from the moral order is horrifying,” Jones writes.

Or the warning of these films could be, a fetus is a scary monster that will consume you, and arranging for it to be sucked out is a HUGE relief.

(I know that’s what *I* took away from “Alien”.)

There’s nothing better than a natural hormonal cycle and a man that loves you!

Actually lesbianism is better than that. No dicks or babybatter involved at all.

If Catholics are growing fast as a group, it is because of the huge immigration of Hispanics, who tend to be only nominally Catholics, that is, baptised. Jones never said that phrase, which welcomes prisoners to Auschwitz. Incidentally, that was a common German aphorism. I do think that Democrats have impoved on it: Work for free! I’ll have to look into the crime rate issue, but what is certain is that where Democrats are in control the crime rate is high. I think that what Dem’s are trying to say, but can’t formulate it, is that the contraceptive mentality is ok no matter what the crime rate is. Democrats like sexual liberation and the like political control. A match made in Obamaland.

If Catholics are growing fast as a group, it is because of the huge immigration of Hispanics, who tend to be only nominally Catholics, that is, baptised.

Hey, George? Goalposts are supposed to stay in one place, mmmmmmmmmmmmmK?

Thanks for playing.

I’ll have to look into the crime rate issue, but what is certain is that where Democrats are in control the crime rate is high.

And you’d be wrong. Crime has, over the past thirty years, always, ALWAYS, peaked in Republican administrations.

There’s a “certain” here, but it ain’t you being right.

“Democrats like sexual liberation and the like political control. A match made in Obamaland.”

Wait so all of the conservatives who want to make being gay illegal are doing what?

Yes, indeed, an appropriate name for this offensive and putrid site would just be the word: “Crap”.
Thankfully, the pro-life, anti-contraceptive, anti-immorality folks will continue to propagate, and the pro-death, contraceptive immoral folks will die out as they will not propagate. What goes around will come around.
It will become a hope-filled and joyful world when that time comes.

The vast majority of women who have abortions either have children or plan to have children, 4-Life Catholic.

Thankfully, the pro-life, anti-contraceptive, anti-immorality folks will continue to propagate, and the pro-death, contraceptive immoral folks will die out as they will not propagate. What goes around will come around.

That’s funny. It’s as if a blue-nosed boy-raping organization hasn’t tried — wildly unsuccessfully, by the way — to dictate people’s sex lives for a couple thousand years now.

And yet, here we are! Pretty impressive for a bunch of pro-death immoralists who abort children the way others eat corn flakes.

Tell me again how that’s supposed to work.

Irrelevant post and total waste of time. Thankfully, opinions like your don’t reproduce — they die by narcissism. After you all of similar minds have contracepted/aborted/euthanized yourself out of existence, we will inherit the earth…

Yup. My parents are pro-life Catholics. Which is why I’m… Oh. I guess I’m a pro-choice pagan.

You guys understand religion and politics aren’t genetic, right? You keep breeding and hoping you can add them to your numbers, and we’ll persuade them when they start thinking for themselves.

After you all of similar minds have contracepted/aborted/euthanized yourself out of existence, we will inherit the earth…

First, Catholics already ruled the world. And they blew it. Burned people at the stake. Had corrupt Popes. Encouraged indulgences. Supported a ton of despots and Kings. Fought a lot of endlessly destructive wars.

Maybe you read about it.

Second, it’s hilariously funny to think that’s all we liberals do when we’re not in our sex orgies. For example, in my spare time, I burn zygotes.

Thankfully, opinions like your don’t reproduce — they die by narcissism. After you all of similar minds have contracepted/aborted/euthanized yourself out of existence, we will inherit the earth

So opinions are genetically determined now? But gay people “choose” to be homosexual?

Interesting.

BTW, I was raised Catholic by parents who saw Vatican II as the beginning of the end for the church, sent to Catholic schools for 12 years, and actually chose to go to a Catholic college.

But I’m feeling muuuuuch better now!

My mom is pro-choice and many other mothers are pro-choice. Funny fact, you can have abortions and use contraception, then later have children! I know, your priest told you differently, but he doesn’t have much of a sex life (or shouldn’t, in any case).

Thankfully, opinions like your don’t reproduce — they die by narcissism. After you all of similar minds have contracepted/aborted/euthanized yourself out of existence, we will inherit the earth…

So they’re going to fuck us out of existence?

You’d think it would already have happened, there’ve been almost forty yrs. for non-Catholics to abort & contracept ourselves from the face of the earth.

Love the narcissism bit too. As if people who pretend they were made in gawd’s image aren’t the world’s greatest fucking narcissists.

Catholics are the cwaziest people!

The Total Crime Index for Cook Co., which includes Chicago and is run by Democrats, was 4,602.8 in 2006. DuPage Co., near-by, has an index of 2,226.2. The Dems have more than twice the crime rate of GOP’s. Does Wolf-Alice concede then that the Dems like both sexual liberation and political control? Does she concede that sexual liberation means political control, and that is ok with her? Homosexuals look to the Dem party to “liberate them” because the Dem party is the party of a government so big that it can dictate everyone’s behavior and punish severely those who refuse to go along. Pointing at GOPer’s does not let Dems off the hook.

The Total Crime Index for Cook Co., which includes Chicago and is run by Democrats, was 4,602.8 in 2006. DuPage Co., near-by, has an index of 2,226.2. The Dems have more than twice the crime rate of GOP’s. Does Wolf-Alice concede then that the Dems like both sexual liberation and political control? Does she concede that sexual liberation means political control, and that is ok with her? Homosexuals look to the Dem party to “liberate them” because the Dem party is the party of a government so big that it can dictate everyone’s behavior and punish severely those who refuse to go along. Pointing at GOPer’s does not let Dems off the hook.

Two data points do not make a trend.

The Total Crime Index for Cook Co.

First, George, you’ve run your table here. You’ve proven yourself an ignorant milquetoast, little man.

Second, I was not aware that Cook County was America!

Thanks for sharing that. So we can now call you unAmerican and be truthful.

How’d you like them apples, dickhead?

After you all of similar minds have contracepted/aborted/euthanized yourself out of existence, we will inherit the earth…

Uhhhhhhhhh, don’t look now, Neanderthal, but…

Homosexuals look to the Dem party

Funny how many of them seem to be Republicans, innit?

“…the Dem party is the party of a government so big that it can dictate everyone’s behavior and punish severely those who refuse to go along.”

Again, what do you think Republicans have been doing every time they are in power?

Actually, George, part of the reason the crime rate has gone down is because women aborted the fetuses they didn’t want, instead of giving birth to them and then treating them as burdens they didn’t want. Perhaps that happened to you. It would certainly explain why you think your sperm is sacred.

“Moreover, why would she further enable such a man’s behavior by ingesting hormones to suppress her body’s natural functioning so that she can be sexually available to him with no investment or responsibility required on his part?”

I doubt is there is anything particularly natural about have 300 menstrual periods. My devoutly Catholic aunt, who used the rhythm method, was pregnant at least 15 times in the 25 years she was married. Between pregnancy and lactation, I doubt if she had 30 periods.

RobNYNY, you raise a really good point. Historically menstruation was seen only as the means to an end – pregnancy. Female fertility was almost always naturally suppressed before the pill anyway, considering that pregnancy and lactation both inhibit conception.

Christ on a cracker… First off, Nazi’s suck. End of discussion.

Secondly, he is WAY off about Alien. Alien is an allegory for rape. The original Alien in the drawing had a phallus head that looked exactly like a penis. It’s basically looking at how fucked up rape is. So he’s wrong.

Thirdly, he needs to research, and not make stupid assumptions based on made up facts. Correlation does not imply causation. Frankly, this whole article is one big logical fallacy.

My boyfriend and I decided that if we ever get married, we are not having biological children. Both of us are wayyyyyyyyy too batshit insane to want our genes passed on. Demon spawn to the max. Plus, the fact that I am insanely tokophobic means that should I get pregnant, it would completely exacerbate my depression and anxiety, both of which are clinically diagnosed.

God, can the rapture come? Please? Then these asshats will disappear, and the rest of us can decide what to do with our own bodies…

Hello. And Bye.

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