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During the recent celebrations of Treason In Defense Of Slavery History Month, it was ruefully noted by more than one commentator that the Confederacy retroactively won the war when Reconstruction ended and the Southern states established Jim Crow.  Likewise, it seems we were a little hasty in popping the champagne corks on V-E Day, because it turns out that certain former Gestapo functionaries are having a bit of a laugh at our expense.

As Andrew Sullivan points out, the Bush Administration borrowed the elegant euphemism “enhanced interrogation techniques” from a pre-War Gestapo manual (which also limited the types of prisoners upon whom such techniques could legally be used — ah, those naive, starry-eyed Nazis), as well as several types of creative, interrogater-induced torment:

Freezing prisoners to near-death, repeated beatings, long forced-standing, waterboarding, cold showers in air-conditioned rooms, stress positions [Arrest mit Verschaerfung], withholding of medicine and leaving wounded or sick prisoners alone in cells for days on end - all these have occurred at US detention camps under the command of president George W. Bush. Over a hundred documented deaths have occurred in these interrogation sessions. The Pentagon itself has conceded homocide by torture in multiple cases.

…The victims, by the way, were not in uniform. And the Nazis tried to argue, just as John Yoo did, that this made torturing them legit. The victims were paramilitary Norwegians, operating as an insurgency, against an occupying force.

…This is the Yoo position. It’s what Glenn Reynolds calls the “sensible” position on torture. It was the camp slogan at Camp Nama in Iraq: “No Blood, No Foul.” Now take the issue of “stress positions”, photographed at Abu Ghraib and used at Bagram to murder an innocent detainee. Here’s a good description of how stress positions operate:

The hands were tied together closely with a cord on the back of the prisoner, raised then the body and hung the cord to a hook, which was attached into two meters height in a tree, so that the feet in air hung. The whole body weight rested thus at the joints bent to the rear. The minimum period of hanging up was a half hour. To remain there three hours hung up, was pretty often. This punishment was carried out at least twice weekly.

Remember during the 2000 presidential campaign, where the candidates were asked to name their favorite political philosopher?  And Bush, who was slumping in his chair liked a bored fourth grader on a library field trip, drawled, “Jesus, because he changed my heart.”  Well, maybe so, but apparently he changed it into a lump of coal, since some of the techniques the president has authorized actually predate the Gestapo, going all the way back to Roman times, when a certain political philosopher named Jesus coincidentally died from a “stress position.” 

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You know, I don’t want to be a total fucking bitch here or anything, but could someone *please* teach Mr Sullivan to properly spell “homicide”? It’s just amazingly distracting.

Mind you, if the person who would be teaching Mr Sullivan to spell had more important things on his to do list, like seeing about Mr Bush’s war crimes trial, I’m willing to wait on the minor issue of Mr Sullivan’s writing skills.

The following comment is from Anntichrist S. Coulter, who apparently pissed off the server somehow…
Scott, please, I beg of you, PLEASE — find out WHO IN THE FUCK paid for/authorized “THE PRESCOTT BUSH AWARDS”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I shit you not. I didn’t catch the whole clip on Situation Room today (people insist on talking over the parts that *I* wanna see/hear, as opposed to ME not being allowed to talk even during the COMMERCIALS if fucking NASCAR is on… I might as well be back in the state mental hospital, I swear, from the “privileges” and “freedoms” that I still possess at this point in my life) — anyway, I didn’t notice which republicunt ass-licking felcher was “granted”/”won” THE PRESCOTT SELLING MUNITIONS TO ADOLPH FUCKING HITLER BUSH AWARD, but really, that’s not even what matters here.

I wanna know what kind of gangrenous cunt-fart would even CONCEIVE of “awarding” anybody ANYTHING attached to the name of PRESCOTT BUSH!!!!!!!!!!

(Personally, I thought that they misspelled the name on the banner, I’ve always seen it spelled, “Prescot,” with one “t”, but hey, what’s a fucking typo when you’re paying HOMAGE to a fucking NAZI WEAPONS DEALER?!??!?!)

And we thought that Iran-Contra was a not-even-so-much-as-a-slap-on-the-fucking-wrist CLUSTERFUCK AGAINST HUMANITY OF ALL TIME — ohhhhhhh, but no.

Pleeeeease cover this. You know that my brain isn’t functioning right now. Do this. And tell S.Z. that we need her back, gawddammit.

Thank you, Scott. You are always there when I need you, and I never forget that.

As to this particular post… Maybe I’m far more naive than I ever thought was possible, for a jaded old fucker like me, but it still astounds me that so-called human beings can do this to human beings, no matter the fucking cause.

Yeah, I make my jokes, my fantasies about what should be done to Biggus Dickus Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Rove, Gonzales, even that puppet among puppets, Dumbya — but these motherfuckers are LIVING THEM OUT.

In a real world, if one could even exist anymore, wouldn’t the people doing this shit be considered fucking SERIAL KILLERS?!??!!?? Fuck, this shit makes Gacy and the Night Stalker and Jeffrey fucking DAHMER look like gawddamned SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHERS.

The more that is revealed, the more that we are *allowed* to learn of these atrocities, the less purpose that the human species actually serves upon this planet. We are a fucking plague upon the earth.

Especially when you can imagine the shit that we will NEVER officially or unofficially know about. Small wonder that they’re doing tributes to a Nazi arms dealer — the multiple genocides committed by these corporate-whore cocksuckers are making the Third Reich look like RANK FUCKING AMATEURS.

Jeebus H. on a fucking cracker with a side of horseradish.

I’m gonna avoid mentioning my personal opinion, which is that Andrew Sullivan can start lecturing about the history of warfare after two or three reincarnations as an invertebrate, but I will ask one question: what the fuck did he think was going to happen in a war? I understand if someone wishes to make the distinction between ugliness on the battlefield and the violation of all standards there and elsewhere; still, what did you imagine was going to become of thousands of innocents in Iraq? What was your justification for that, again? This country has a moral obligation to abide by the Geneva Conventions, its own Constitution, and, I and many others believe, to standards beyond the letter of the law. So too do we as human beings have at minimum an obligation to weigh very carefully our support for acts of war, most especially when we are the aggressor. Mr. Sullivan, as I recall it, not only gave his loud assent but called those of us who were less enthusiastic “Fifth Columnists”, another Fascist-era reference I trust he’ll get around to explaining.

No, what I wanted to say was that it’s time for a 21st century addendum to Godwin, to the effect that even references to historical events are a violation where one does not acknowledge that this is no longer the world of 1937. And that our own international interventionalism since siding with the right-wing Greek extremists in ‘47 and against the Huk in ‘48 is one long series of brutality, stupidity, and miscalculation that has nothing whatsoever to do with the danger that an American president is going to morph into Hitler.

when a certain political philosopher named Jesus coincidentally died from a “stress position.”

yeah, but he got better, so it couldn’t have been that bad now, could it? and didn’t those other guys hanging out with him get to go to heaven, guaranteed, or some such? [/aWol]

The “political philosopher” wimped out & died after only a few hours !

Remember during the 2000 presidential campaign, where the candidates were asked to name their favorite political philosopher? And Bush, who was slumping in his chair liked a bored fourth grader on a library field trip, drawled, “Jesus, because he changed my heart.” Well, maybe so, but apparently he changed it into a lump of coal, since some of the techniques the president has authorized actually predate the Gestapo, going all the way back to Roman times, when a certain political philosopher named Jesus coincidentally died from a “stress position.”

Exodus 4:21-23
The LORD said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go. Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son, and I told you, “Let my son go, so he may worship me.” But you refused to let him go; so I will kill your firstborn son.’ “

So is all this Nazi lore passed down from Grandpa Prescott the arms dealer? Or did it come by way of Negroponte, who picked it up from the Contras he protected in Honduras, who were admirers of the SS, imitation being the greatest form of flattery?

Trashfire, did you see Negroponte’s smug bald ass on Situation Room day before yesterday?

The motherfucker just REEEEEEEKS of pure unmitigated evil. Anybody who can lie that much, in that short span of time,and never even BLINK — fuck, he shoulda gone into show bidness.

Well, in a way, I guess that he did, huh.

In response to Antichrist Coulter …. Shame, shame on the anti-christ! As a long-time cocksucker, I must protest your use of that term in condemning the self-styled “Christian” descendants of Nazi sympathizers who condone the killing and torture of their fellow human beings. No self-respecting cocksucker would associate with such scum of the earth. Please don’t forget that the cocksuckers were Hitler’s enemies as much as the other impures and unworthies were.

Cocksuckers wish to give only pleasure. Nazis and their “Christian” cohorts give much pain.

I’ll leave it to one of my working girl sisters to protest your calling the aforementioned haters “whores”.

With a frog in my throat (or something),


Unpucker, Oscar dear.

I never said that they were GOOD AT IT.



Everybody is just too fucking sensitive to have fun anymore. *sigh*

What I wouldn’t miss for a round of Crisco twister with the queens of St. Ann Street again… Granted, with my back, I could hardly keep up with those chiseled young bartenders in half-togas, but damn, it was fun to try!

Darling, I was a fruit-fly before being a fag-hag was cute. Shock me.

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