LMAO

Left by Cynthia on October 4th, 2008

There’s still a Knott’s Berry Farm?

Left by Capmconnundrum on October 4th, 2008

Reminds me of the dopes who come up here to New Hampster hooted and crowing about how wunnerful it sure is there ain’t no sales tax and no income tax here.

Then they wonder how come it takes so damn long to register your car, the lines? Can’t they hire someone else? And the fees, jesus H. Christ they whine, the town hall is like a hornet’s nest of fees!

And how come the streets are so bumpy every spring and still that way in the fall? And why do the schools have such a high drop out rate? How come the cops don’t have enough personnel to come faster than 45 minutes? (ten minutes if you happen to be next to their last call).

I don’t know why these people just don’t take an impoverished, hungry city like E. St. Louis and show us how no taxes brings in economic growth. C’mon? Any takers?

Left by kate on October 4th, 2008

Yeah, those stupid ladies. They should throw their money around recklessly and run up a crazy debt. That would be American and much more acceptable. Does a group that amounts to little more than a Rotary club need to turn a profit? What for? They pay as they go. Used to be the way the entire country was run. Now we’re all taught it’s much better to spend what we don’t have. Like $700 billion to rescue the very companies that have spent the last decade preying on the American dream. When’s the last time your kid brought a field trip permission slip home with a request to send $5 for lunch and you send $50 instead because it was the right thing to do?

Left by Dave on October 4th, 2008

You can be a ladies-who-lunch apologist all you want. However, it won’t be a laughing matter if the Republican Ladies have to have a cash bar at their Christmas (That’s Christmas, dammit! Not Holiday!) party. If they have to pay for their own drinks, then believe me you and the rest of the northern hemisphere will feel real terror.

Left by Sally Maitland on October 4th, 2008

Dave - the post was talking about a “fund-raising” event, you know, something specifically designed to bring in more money than it cost to organize. The sort of thing we liberals do when we buy a coffee mug from public radio for $50. If we really needed a coffee mug, we’d get one for $1 at the local thrift store.

Left by Rugosa on October 4th, 2008

Perhaps the mistake was more along the line of planning a fundraising field trip. Most fundraisers I’ve ever been a part of were along the lines of bakesales, yardsales and other things that women traditionally rally around AND actually generate money. Why, I bet, ol’ Bessie’s famous rum balls would even sell well enough to pay for that Christmas open bar. Enjoy your coffee. I have one of those mugs, as well. I just don’t feel the need to show it off to show how liberal and altruistic I am. I tend to do nice things because it’s the right thing to do, not to show everyone else how great of a person I am.

Left by Dave on October 4th, 2008

I have one of those mugs, as well. I just don’t feel the need to show it off to show how liberal and altruistic I am.

Because caring and generosity radiate from your every word.

I tend to do nice things because it’s the right thing to do, not to show everyone else how great of a person I am.

Then I guess we should thank you for contributing your time and effort to our blog. Most people only comment here because we threatened their family, or it’s part of their community service.

Speaking of which, good luck with your crusade to convince service clubs like the Rotary to operate along strict libertarian principles, or get outta the charity biz!

Left by scott on October 4th, 2008

“Most fundraisers I’ve ever been a part of were along the lines of bakesales, yardsales and other things that women traditionally rally around AND actually generate money.

I absolutely agree. Wonder why McCain hasn’t advocated pay as go military budgets? An annual Pentagon yard sale and bake-a-thon I think would be a great way to fund the Iraq war! Good thinking Dave!

“Like $700 billion to rescue the very companies that have spent the last decade preying on the American dream.”

But Dave, that’s the American way! They were paying as they went, themselves that is. Heck look at all the money the American taxpayer saved after all that costly regulation was removed.

Left by kate on October 5th, 2008

Scott,

Just as I was mistaken that a field trip would also double as a fundraiser, you are mistaken that:

1: My comments here are generous
2: I am on a crusade to transform Rotarians, Lions, and all the others.
3: people are incapable of doing nice things and expecting nothing in return

Good luck to yourself, as well.

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

Oh, and read this before you start throwing around responses to the $700 billion remark. Turns out you can do so much to help others that you end up screwing them in the end.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/dominic-lawson/dominic-lawson-democrat-fingerprints-are-all-over-the-financial-crisis-949653.html

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

Then I guess we should thank you for contributing your time and effort to our blog. Most people only comment here because we threatened their family, or it’s part of their community service.

What the hell? I was promised sex in exchange for commenting here. You people can’t change the deal on me now!

Dave, it’s nothing personal, but you started off by mocking the blogger for something it turns out you misread, and then you got weirdly defensive at the explanation, and morphed into snotty when it was pointed out you were being weird. And yet you’re still trying to make points. Now’s the time to bow out gracefully. It’s okay, there’s millions of Daves on the web. You can come back in a couple weeks and comment on something else (only do try to read it first) and we we’ll assume you’re someone different (assuming you behave differently) and accept your commentary as another part of the running gag here quite happily. Really. Or, if you can’t wait, try coming back in a couple days as “Doug” or something.

Left by D. Sidhe on October 5th, 2008

D. Smug suits everyone on the web so well, don’t you think. I admit I probably wrote like an ass. Let’s see if you’re man or woman enough to do the same. Or at least, to come down from that high horse you seem to be riding along beside me on.
love, Doug.

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

Wait, was I just asked to apologize for noticing you acting like a jerk? Um, okay. Sorry, Dave. Not sure what that proves, but…

Left by D. Sidhe on October 5th, 2008

Wow, it’s like Dave is trying to hit EVERY troll-bell along the way, right down to the fakey-fake expressions of affection! Damn, that’s some quality trolling!

–Kate, you forgot about how they complain that they have to pay for snowplows and try to leech off other neighboring (and poorer) towns’ snow-removal services. That was what really cracked me up about the “Free Staters” who thought moving to an unincorp way up in the North Country would be a good idea - just wait till winter, I thought. Snowplows (and ambulances!) aren’t free, to buy or run, which they apparently didn’t realize before setting off to found Libertopia in an area that was mostly uninhabited for a damn good reason.

And bingo! Many now hunker down in Manch-Vegas and the vicinity, bitching and moaning about the high taxes…and the snow.

Left by bellatrys on October 5th, 2008

The Independent article is somewhat misleading in stating that it was bad loans that led to the financial crisis. The crisis is the result of the Ponzi scheme of bundling and slicing mortgages into arcane financial instruments, and selling them up the pyramid. If the bad loans had been kept by the originating institutions the old-fashioned way, those institutions may have failed and some bankers would be older and wiser. As it is, when the base of the pyramid began to crumble, the whole pile of trash started coming down.

Left by Rugosa on October 5th, 2008

No. I didn’t ask for any apologies. Nice to see I’m not the only one who doesn’t always catch what I read the first time. Call it what you want, I admitted my mistakes.

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

I’ve known cheapass groups like this. They’re the type who never fly anywhere because it costs too much, rarely fundraise (too much work) and even when they do go on an outing, they’ll hire the cheapest bus (even down to a minibus if there are only 20 or so members going - try going 100 miles on a minibus). It’s surprising they didn’t carpool to Knott’s, even if it was as much as 250 miles away (I assume this group was from CA. Who the hell would go to Knott’s if they weren’t from CA? It ain’t Disneyland ferchrissakes.), “C’mon girls, it’ll be fun, like a caravan!”. At the end, they could boast “The entire trip cost the group only $317.53! For all of us!”, forgetting that the owners of the cars paid for the gas. The owners won’t forget. They never do. Then everyone grumbles about the trip costing too much. Lather, rinse, repeat. They’ll even try to beat you out of a bill for providing service (this is how I know them, after all), claiming any idiotic thing that pops in their head. Church groups are the worst for this, and I hated dealing with them. I even let my Class B lapse so I wouldn’t ever have to drive them.

Left by crossbuck on October 5th, 2008

Mortgages were bought and sold before this crisis got under way. Had the old-fashioned restrictions of don’t buy a house unless you can afford it had been allowed to stay put, then it wouldn’t matter who holds the note. People pay for things they can afford, but they’ll take whatever they’re given regardless of the consequences in the end. That’s a human trait. Not conservative. Not liberal. Human. The best protection for anyone who didn’t clearly understand the ramifications of taking out a shady loan would have been to never make it available in the first place.

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

I *was* sitting down when I read the main post, so I remained uninjured, but then that darn Dave made me fall off my chair! AND I got stomach cramping! And my face hurts!!

…D. Sidhe, I hold you fully responsible. Please man up to what you have done.

Left by Bagelsan on October 5th, 2008

Dave, you’re doing classic, by-the-numbers trolling, and I may be doing wrong by responding, but I must. It’s all about you and your issues, isn’t it? Quit trying to pull the thread away from the subject of the post. There are hundreds of econ blogs out there for you to argue about that $700 billion. They hardly talk about anything but that now. Except for the next failed financial institution.

IOW, Go Away. Now.

Left by crossbuck on October 5th, 2008

D. Smug suits everyone on the web so well, don’t you think. I admit I probably wrote like an ass. Let’s see if you’re man or woman enough to do the same. Or at least, to come down from that high horse you seem to be riding along beside me on.
love, Doug.

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

- Boy, this comment has all the coherence of a Palin interview. The weirdest part is the “love, Doug” part. WTF? Is it Dave or Doug? Why do I even give a shit?

Left by jlo on October 5th, 2008

jlo, read all the way through. After all the name calling and trolling comments, it was mentioned that I could/would pretend to go away and then rejoin the conversation under another name. Like Doug.

Y’all have fun.

Left by Dave on October 5th, 2008

Oh, you’re right. You suggested, not that I should apologize for noticing you’re being a jerk, but that I should “man up” and admit that I noticed you being a jerk. You’re absolutely correct, I did indeed notice it. I’m still not sure what that proves.

And I have had to rethink my suggestion that you come back pretending to be someone else. I suspect we’d all notice you were the same troll under any name.

Hugs and kisses,
D.

Left by D. Sidhe on October 5th, 2008

Ah Ms. Sidhe please. I’m the only Weird Dave around here, I love your comments, and I hope you never have to apologize for them.

Let us call our friendly neighborhood troll by the much more appropriate name Joc-A-Moe Dave (and since my Cajun is not all that good if I am using that term inappropriately I hope you or Anti will let me know).

Thanks.

Left by Weird Dave on October 5th, 2008

Mortgages were bought and sold before this crisis got under way. Had the old-fashioned restrictions of don’t buy a house unless you can afford it had been allowed to stay put, then it wouldn’t matter who holds the note. People pay for things they can afford, but they’ll take whatever they’re given regardless of the consequences in the end. That’s a human trait. Not conservative. Not liberal. Human. The best protection for anyone who didn’t clearly understand the ramifications of taking out a shady loan would have been to never make it available in the first place.

Take that business over to Calculated Risk, where you can get schooled properly and thoroughly by the posters there.

Left by TM on October 5th, 2008

I love the fact that because I have opinions, it means I’m uneducated. Especially when I tend to formulate them from life experiences, rather than…ahh, never mind. You guys provided a great weekend of entertainment.

Left by Dave on October 6th, 2008

You guys provided a great weekend of entertainment.

Now that’s just sad. I spent Friday getting a root canal and the rest of the weekend with a friggin’ migraine, and I still managed to entertain myself better. May I suggest for next weekend, Dave, a good book? How about a trip to your local aquarium or botanical garden? A little volunteer work? Some home repair? Dinner with friends? A movie? A concert? Sex? The world is full of all sorts of ways to amuse yourself, and I can’t help feeling sorry that you had to resort to digging yourself into a rhetorical hole in a blog’s comment thread to be fulfilled. It’s the bleeding heart liberal in me, I guess.

Left by D. Sidhe on October 6th, 2008

I am a liberal, but when a blog posts anonymous correspondence pointing out the cheapness of Republican women’s groups when they should instead be talking about what I want them to talk about, it makes us liberals look bad.

The name of this blog is totally appropriate. (Because it is crappy, get it?)

I thought that liberals were supposed to be the nice ones, but you people are mean!

Now that you’ve hurt my feelings by not thanking me for putting you all straight, I’m going away and never coming back!!!!

Okay, I just came back to say that Hillary Clinton, who you worship, is ugly, and that I hope you all rot in hell.

Left by s.z. on October 6th, 2008

D.,
Actually it’s the complete and total literal dumbass in you that thinks I did nothing this weekend aside from watch this thread. Much like most liberal “open minded” dumbasses I know who have no ability to blend humor with their outright need to catch everyone around them in a slight misstep so that they can prove their own superiority. THAT is a sad existence. May I suggest: not following the herd? Truly opening your mind to other possibilities? Accepting the fact that you can’t be right all the time?

I know that this amounts to nothing more than a futile attempt on my part to sway you from your golden throne of excellence. But I don’t see what good it does to sit there when all you can see is the rest of the herd of asses in front of you.

Left by Dave on October 6th, 2008

Oh dear, Dave is suffering from Irony Deficiency, too! This is a common phenom among trolls, making them incapable of grasping sarcasm and satirical humour at their expense, but insufficient study has been done to determine whether or not it’s a cause or a side-effect of trolling.

Left by bellatrys on October 6th, 2008

Blather like this almost makes me want to call myself Doug.
Although I know one and he’s an asshole, so no, I’ll stay me.

Left by heydave on October 6th, 2008

Yet you keep coming back to add your two cents. You just can’t stay away. Simply by coming here and typing a couple sentences of my opinions, I can keep you folks roiled up and spitting.

Call it what you want. I call it holding the leash. And it’s an interesting social experiment.

Here boy! Here boy! Speak!

Left by Dave on October 6th, 2008

The name of this blog is totally appropriate. (Because it is crappy, get it?)

Okay, I just came back to say that Hillary Clinton, who you worship, is ugly, and that I hope you all rot in hell.

Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is how a Troll rolls.

Left by scott on October 6th, 2008

As for me, I’m left wondering if “Dave” or “Doug” is really Sadly’s own Gary Ruppert…

Left by Marion in Savannah on October 6th, 2008

Actually, given the obesity of the American public, an annual Pentagon yard sale and bake-a-thon probably would generate more money than the current Pentagon budget !

Left by H-Bob on October 6th, 2008

Man, I haven’t been called a dumbass since the fourth grade.

And, I dunno. This is okay trolling, not to take away from S.Z. We have: If you comment after I do, I have provoked you, so I win teh internets!!!11one!!, and we also have “If you don’t comment after I do, it’s because you cannot refute my majesty so I win teh internets!!!11one!!

That’s at least competent trollery, even if it’s bizarrely along the lines of coming into someone else’s living room and telling them if they don’t leave it’s because they admit you’re King Of The Sofa.

heydave and Weird Dave, believe me, we would not mistake you for this person. You’re unique voices, he’s an interchangeable trollscript.

Left by D. Sidhe on October 6th, 2008

I dunno H-Bob, they’d probably have to offer delivery service and that would most likely usurp all profits. Either way though, the objective would be reached would it not?

And by the way, our beloved Dave mentioned something about school funding that I ignored previously, When’s the last time your kid brought a field trip permission slip home with a request to send $5 for lunch and you send $50 instead because it was the right thing to do?”

As a matter of fact, my three children repeatedly were sent home with notes demanding funds for field trips, school supplies and demanding that the children provide school supplies that last I knew were the school’s responsibility to provide (pencils, paper for example).

Now if those who could afford it, would have been willing to pay their taxes, then possibly the school wouldn’t have been left to beg every child, no matter what income at home, to provide the most basic supplies in order for them to be provided the most basic education.

Call me silly, but last I knew, taxes were supposed to cover school costs as the country was under law, required to provide and free, fair and equal basic, functional education.

bellatrys: “Kate, you forgot about how they complain that they have to pay for snowplows and try to leech off other neighboring (and poorer) towns’ snow-removal services.”

You know its amazing to me. Just last month I had a couple of free staters come to apply for an apartment. Just moved up from the south, why? “Cause we thought we liked that ‘Live Free or Die’ that’s what we believe in.” replied the man of the family. “So where ya workin?” I inquired.

Neither was yet employed nor had any plans to become employed.

Free State yeah.

Left by kate on October 6th, 2008

Kate, maybe they misunderstood the saying? Thought that “Free” referred to the cost of living, not the state of being free from tyranny?

Well, I doubt they’ll last past end of January - that’s about when even bred-and-born NH natives tend to freak out, give up and move to Florida! (I have to stop saying “Oh, isn’t the snow pretty?” so I don’t get decked…)

(And isn’t it cute how Dave, being unable to stay away, insists that *he’s* the one calling the tune as we all mock him for lacking a single clue? Counting down until he brings out “But the lurkers support me in e-mail”, now…

Left by bellatrys on October 7th, 2008